Conservatives must choose between Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson

Published October 31, 2025 2:08pm ET



There are two paths forward for the conservative movement. One is the bravery and faithfulness of Charlie Kirk, and the other is the cowardice of Tucker Carlson, who recently promoted Nazi podcast guest Nick Fuentes.

Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts chose the latter path in a bizarre, contradictory video defending Carlson and his softball interview with Fuentes. Roberts said that “When we disagree with a person’s thoughts and opinions, we challenge those ideas in debate,” and that Heritage invites “robust debate.” But he then said that people criticizing Fuentes and Carlson are “bad actors who serve someone else’s agenda” and part of a “venomous coalition” that is “sowing division” against “our friends.”

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