Talk show hosts Stephen A. Smith and Bill O’Reilly squabbled about whether President Donald Trump will lower the national debt.

The United States currently has a debt of $36 trillion. The debt total was $30 trillion in February 2022 before it increased by a trillion in October of that year. By the end of 2023, it increased to over $34 trillion. In July 2024, the national debt surpassed $35 trillion, and just 118 days later, the U.S. registered $36 trillion in debt.