Talk show host Dr. Phil traveled to Chicago to join border czar Tom Homan while U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement was arresting a convicted sex offender from Thailand.

Dr. Phil previewed his meeting, detailing the “pretty high-risk mission” that he and Homan would be undertaking, saying that ICE officers are not conducting sweeps across cities like some are claiming and instead are targeting “bad actors.” Homan and Dr. Phil then discussed “hogwash” claims against the agency, with the talk show host suggesting that politicians seeking to work against ICE are “creating what they fear the most,” which is forcing ICE to go into communities rather than to jails where illegal immigrants could be held.