“Fox & Friends” host Elisabeth Hasselbeck grilled White House press secretary Josh Earnest Wednesday morning on the “cavalier” statement of President Obama that last week’s terrorist attack in Paris was just a “setback” in the war against the Islamic State, a stinging comment that put Earnest on the defensive.

Hasselbeck asked Earnest why Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry have used some of the words they have used to describe both last week’s deadly terror attacks in Paris and the January attack on Charlie Hebdo, which Kerry called “understandable.” She said those words paint Obama and Kerry as “aloof, apathetic and quite cavalier about these lives being lost at the hand of ISIS.”