Even the king Obama Bro has no idea why news outlets are using words such as “moderate” and “centrist” to describe presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s running mate, the solidly ultra-liberal Sen. Kamala Harris of California.

“It was hilarious to me that [Harris is] being called, in all this coverage, a ‘moderate,’” said former Obama speechwriter and current podcast host Jon Favreau, “like Joe Biden has found a fellow moderate or centrist.”