Trump rejects idea that he didn’t ‘drain the swamp’ in first term

Published July 16, 2023 11:00pm ET



Former President Donald Trump is pushing back against claims he failed to “drain the swamp” during his first term in the White House.

Fox News’s Maria Bartiromo told Trump in an interview on Sunday Morning Futures that he “didn’t drain the swamp” as he claimed he would. Trump rebutted her claim, saying he “fired” a number of people.

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“I fired [former FBI Director James] Comey. I fired a lot of people. A lot of the people I had, I fired. I fired Comey very early. And, you know, there was a question as to whether or not you could. But I fired Comey. If I didn’t fire Comey, I don’t think I would have been able to serve out my term because that was a plot.”

Bartiromo asked Trump about his track record of hiring staff who later spoke out against him, such as former Attorney General Bill Barr or former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper, and what he would do differently if he got a second term.

“The mistake would be people,” Trump said, referring to some of his personnel moves. “I mean, I wouldn’t have put a guy like Bill Barr, and he was weak and pathetic. I wouldn’t have put [former Attorney General] Jeff Sessions. And there are some people that I wouldn’t have put in. You know, most people were good, but I had some people … we had Mark Esper. I didn’t like him. He was incompetent. I thought we had other people I didn’t like.”

“Why did you put them in the job then?” Bartiromo asked.

“I didn’t know the people,” Trump said. “I know the people now better than anybody has ever known. The people I know, the good ones, the bad ones, the dumb ones, the smart ones.”

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