Pollster John Zogby isn’t dismissive of former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley’s chances of making it to the party nominating convention in Milwaukee despite polls showing the odds are against her.

In laying out Haley’s path to the nomination, Zogby said the easiest way would be to pull off a shocker in New Hampshire. “Nikki Haley has to win. There’s no ifs, ands, or buts about this. No coming close. No making a nice showing,” he said.