Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump mostly danced around questions on how to reduce the national debt, as Clinton reasserted a pledge not to add a penny to the debt, and Trump promised massive economic growth to lower the debt.

“I pay for everything I’m proposing,” Clinton said when asked why her economic plan doesn’t address the nearly $20 trillion national debt. “I do not add a penny to the national debt,” she added, referring to the current upward trajectory of the nation’s red ink.