Joe Crowley discussed on Saturday the best time to defeat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the socialist who pulled off one of the biggest upsets in modern Democratic Party history when she defeated him in a primary contest last year.

In a conversation that focused on the 2020 presidential election, Crowley, who served 10 terms in Congress before his defeat, said the election will also be the 29-year-old’s toughest challenge and would not dismiss the possibility of running for office again.