The acting director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said the department stands by the statement it released in mid-November that concluded there was no evidence that voting systems were compromised in the 2020 election, the same statement that got his predecessor fired.

Brandon Wales, however, took what was likely an attempt to be a bit more careful than the former chief in an interview with the Aspen Institute on Thursday, specifying that the statement stopped short of saying that no fraud took place.