In the immediate aftermath of Monday night’s presidential debate, Frank Luntz’s focus group of undecided voters handed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton a victory, declaring her the “clear winner” of the first head-to-head matchup.

Luntz hosted a group of undecided voters from the swing state of Pennsylvania. Sixteen said that Clinton won, while the remaining five declared the GOP nominee the debate champ. However, the group was dispirited by the two candidates, saying they are not the same caliber as James Madison.