Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich argued Wednesday that Donald Trump could surprise with women voters in November, saying that he is more “pro-woman” than Hillary Clinton.

During a Facebook Q&A Wednesday afternoon, Gingrich pointed out the pay disparity between male and female executives at the Clinton Foundation, where men earn 38 percent more on average, before telling viewers that Trump is more pro-woman than the former secretary of state. He also noted that this likely would come as a “shock” to many voters.