Former Hillary Clinton campaign strategist Adrienne Elrod said Monday she’s not sure Hillary Clinton would come in first or even second if she tried to win the Democratic nomination in 2020.

“To be honest with you, I don’t know that a run this time around would yield a first or second place finish,” Elrod told Hill.TV. “I think there’s a lot of new people in the party who are stepping forward. I think we’ve got a very deep bench of strong candidates and she knows this.”