Second gentleman Doug Emhoff claims that he is not letting “misinformation” about his and his wife, Vice President Kamala Harris‘s, past life “distract” her presidential campaign.

In an excerpt of an interview for MSNBC’s Morning Joe shared on Friday, Emhoff was asked about why he believes former President Donald Trump does not want to debate Harris again. He claimed that the former president would rather spread a “fog of misinformation and disinformation and gaslighting.”