Speaker Emirata Nancy Pelosi offered a glass-half-full view of the Democratic Party after election results dealt a substantial blow to party morale.

In her first long-form interview since the election on Nov. 5, Pelosi spoke with the New York Times about the many causes of President-elect Donald Trump’s triumph over Vice President Kamala Harris, and the down-ballot outcomes as well. She repeatedly refuted evidence that the Democratic party has lost support among working-class voters, and insisted the election was not as detrimental to the party as a whole as has been reported.