Vice President Kamala Harris was turned down as a guest on the popular YouTube show Hot Ones, her campaign leaders revealed.

David Plouffe, a senior adviser on the Harris campaign; Jen O’Malley Dillon, head of the campaign; Quentin Fulks, deputy campaign manager; and Stephanie Cutter, who oversaw messaging and communications, all appeared on a high-profile episode of Pod Save America to give their postmortem of what went wrong. At one point, host Daniel Pfeiffer asked about the campaign’s nontraditional media strategy, a key approach for Harris and President-elect Donald Trump’s campaigns.