Sen. Mike Lee, a leader of the ill-fated effort to defund Obamacare that led to a government shutdown, on Tuesday offered a broader vision for the conservative movement that hinges less on flash and fighting than on developing policy goals.

“We’re going to have to sharpen our pencils rather than knives,” Lee told the conservative Heritage Foundation. “To deserve victory, conservatives have to do more than pick a fight, we have to win a debate.”

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