White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki recently marveled at the idea that the United States’s massive crime spike is a serious problem that serious cable news networks ought to cover.

On the liberal Pod Save America podcast, Psaki recalled seeing one day that CNN and MSNBC were covering the brewing conflict in Ukraine. In contrast, she said, “[On] Fox is Jeanine Pirro talking about ‘soft-on-crime consequences.’ I mean, what does that even mean?”