Former President George H.W. Bush is still licking the wounds of his 1992 defeat to Bill Clinton, but it’s not Bubba he’s angry at. In an interview with Parade, the 1988 candidate who won on a no new taxes pledge and then lost in 1992 after reneging on that promise, takes a shot at the godfather of anti-tax movement.

“Who the hell is Grover Norquist, anyway?” the 88-year-old Bush says in the interview out Sunday in a reference to the president of Americans for Tax Reform, which presses GOP candidates to sign a no tax pledge.

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