President Joe Biden might say Democrats don’t support defunding the police, but out in deep-blue Oakland, California, the defund the police movement is alive and well and in control of the city council.

In June, the Oakland City Council voted to cut $18 million from the city’s police budget and spend that money instead on a variety of social programs. However, the vote by the council was not unanimous, and Oakland-based journalist Leighton Woodhouse talked to one of the council members who voted no:

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