Thursday night’s presidential debate featured nine Democratic candidates, some guy named Eric Swalwell, and a raucous debate over “Medicare for all.” Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., a presidential front-runner and longtime advocate of socialized healthcare, called on his colleagues to embrace his signature “Medicare for all” proposal, even admitting that he’s willing to raise taxes to do so.

However, South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg attempted to throw water on this fire, at least, that’s what it seemed like. He responded to Sanders’ enthusiasm by saying, “Everybody who says ‘Medicare for all,’ every person in politics who allows that phrase to escape their lips, has a responsibility to explain how you’re actually supposed to get from here to there.”