ERIE, Pennsylvania — Gov. Tim Walz‘s (D-MN) visit across Pennsylvania was heavy on dairy but light on interviews or interactions with the local press.

During his trip, Walz partook of milkshakes, cheese curds, and more milkshakes. But the only interview he did in Pennsylvania, during his photo ops in Lancaster, Moon Township, Fayette County, Pittsburgh, and Erie, was with a Michigan, not Pennsylvania, public radio station. It was an interview that revealed more about the Democratic vice presidential nominee’s worldview than anything he has to date — aside, perhaps, from his interview with CNN in which the former schoolteacher blamed “poor grammar” for his false claim that he carried weapons of war during his Army National Guard service.