Secretary of State John Kerry denied that the United States maintained a foreign policy of disengagement under the Obama administration, calling that perception “a marketing problem” on Thursday.

“I hear people allege that the United States is retrenching and that we’re somehow pulling back,” Kerry said during the Atlantic‘s Washington Ideas Festival. “But … I think if you measure all of American history, there has never been a moment where the United States is more engaged in more places simultaneously on as significant a number of complicated issues as we are today, and with impact.”