Secretary of State Marco Rubio clarified President Donald Trump‘s statement that the United States would “run” Venezuela, saying that this would take place through influencing “policy” rather than direct rule.

In an appearance on NBC News’s Meet the Press, Rubio gave his first one-on-one interview since the daring U.S. operation to capture Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. Trump raised concerns on Saturday when he said the U.S. would “run” Venezuela “until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition,” but Rubio clarified on Sunday that he meant indirectly.