A new Washington Post/ABC News poll has confirmed what the political commentariat has long suspected: Democrats who previously elected our first black president and then the first female nominee aren’t terribly excited about voting for the 77-year-old Joe Biden.

Whereas 86% of registered Trump supporters polled reported being enthusiastic, just 74% of Biden’s registered supporters said the same. More stark is the breakdown. Among Trump supporters, 55% reported being “very” enthusiastic, and 32% “somewhat so.” For Biden, those figures were nearly reversed, with just 28% of his enthusiastic supporters claiming they were “very” enthusiastic and 46% saying they were “somewhat so.”